PAUL REUBENS PROVES THERE IS LIFE AFTER PEE-WEE
By David Elliott
From The San Diego Union-Tribune, 08.04.1985
According to Tim Burton, who directed Pee-wee Herman in the
remarkably odd Pee-wee's Big Adventure, reports of the death
of Paul Reubens are premature.
Paul Reubens is the actor and comedian who created Pee-wee,
the transcendental nerd. It has been said that Reubens is gone
forever, swallowed up by his kiddie-cartoonish creation. Burton,
who ought to know, says that, "Pee-wee comes from a very
real place. As crazy as he is, he's rooted in a real man. And
if anyone did Pee-wee 24 hours a day, they'd be dead. Paul Reubens
is still alive."
On the film's set, says Burton, "It wasn't that Pee-wee
ever vanished. It was more like a subduing process, a coming
down. He's quite shy, incredibly bright, and very introspective.
When the camera turns, he's totally Pee-wee. Off-camera he's
quiet and thoughtful."
Pee-wee's Big Adventure, which is raking in good coin at the
box office, could make the stunningly strange Pee-wee a star,
or at least a highly impressive meteor. It is also the making
of a film career for Burton, who is only 26. He won the job after
creating an innovative 30-minute cartoon film for Disney, Frankenweenie.
Though it missed distribution with Disney's Pinocchio due to
a PG rating, Pee-wee's producers saw it and....
"They called me in to meet Pee-wee and the writers. I had
seen Pee-wee's show at the Roxy (a Los Angeles club) and was
a real fan, but I was a little worried about going into a film
with such an established character. I didn't see what I could
add of my own. that set up a basis of trust and rapport. We both
like a lot of the same things, like gadgetry and toys, and we
hit it off. It was tremendous!"
Using a light-boned structure--Pee-wee's bike is stolen, and
he goes to Texas and back to recover it--the movie loads on surreal
episodes that often seem to exist at least halfway inside Pee-wee's
pixilated head. Even when the movie sags in a few spots, it has
terrific style and assurance.
"I started as a Disney animator," says Burton, speaking
from Hawaii where he is enjoying a post-production holiday. "My
background is basically in illustration, and Pee-wee is extremely
visual. It was important to put him in an atmosphere where he
didn't look out of place. Most comedies take a character and
just put him on a standard street corner, but Pee-wee would lose
impact if you did that. I was also keen to show you the way that
he sees things."
That meant some very colorful stuff, often larger-than-life
or (with giant ceramic dinosaurs) as big as life. The film has
animation and dream scenes and wild pop-out energy, "although
the producers thought Pee-wee should be more realistically presented
than in his stage show, which is Pee-wee's Playhouse, very two-dimensional.
They felt that would make him less accessible on film. Yet we
can't put very many restrictions on Pee-wee, or what would be
the point of using him?"
The point, surely, is that Pee-wee has wit, charm, pluck and
a kind of bratty bravura. He is, feels Burton, "an emotional
character, the most wide-ranging comic character in a long time.
Most of the others today are one-note figures. We felt he could
definitely grow emotionally in the story, and that we could go
the whole gamut."
Some viewers feel inspiration runs thin in a wild chase through
the Warners studio. It may be too long but, says the director, "It
was much longer. We cut it down, and tried not to get too in-jokey.
It goes back to the old-style comedy chases, and you don't get
an incredible James Bondish, Spielbergian kick at every turn.
And maybe not having that is now a problem with some audiences.
have a slightly cruder edge which I like. I'm looking for a ...
slick crudity."
After the chase, the movie wins back nearly everyone as Pee-wee
saves the residents of a burning pet shop. "You're right,
that's very important," Burton observes. "It bonds
people to Pee-wee. They really love him."
Burton prepared for his own big adventure "by watching
a lot of Pee-wee tapes. He has evolved. As a rich character,
he has to keep changing, and he has very few limits. I can see
a Pee-wee and the Pirates,' or 'Pee-wee in Outer Space.' If there
are other Pee-wee movies we won't have trouble with concepts."
Alas, even Pee-wee's best fans have trouble with one concept:
Pee-wee and sex. Burton laughs at the linkage, and shares in
the skepticism. After all, despite some darting hints of hipness,
Pee-wee's presiding passion in the movie is for a shiny red bicycle.
Conceding that "sex didn't really come up in the film," Burton
adds, "Right now his character is still a kid at heart,
and we were careful not to break that kid-like nature. But down
the line ... well, it's a touchy situation. If you start asking,
Is he an adult?,' you start to have trouble."
Though Pee-wee is known to beam back and forth from his own
mental planet, for Burton "working with him wasn't overwhelming
at all. We knew we could have fun, and we did. The first time
(on the set) I wasn't nervous at all, which was kind of shocking
to me! I loved shooting. It was exhilarating, a dream come true."
His dream began to form in childhood, when Burton was growing
up in Burbank, the son of the town recreation department's sports
director. He loved Laurel and Hardy, drawing and "all aspects
of film. I studied in the Disney animation program at Cal Arts,
then went to work for Disney. After a while doing rote animation
became tedious. Then came about ten projects that never went
everywhere."
He came back to Disney to make Vincent, an Oscar-nominated cartoon
about a boy's wish to be Vincent Price. Then there was a "low-budget
martial arts version of Hansel and Gretel, which was meant for
cable, but never got shown." His Frankensteinish Frankenweenie
set him up for Pee-wee and the rest is, possibly, history.
Speaking of which, does he hope to do another Pee-wee movie? "It's
hard to say. I loved working with him, and everything I do will
probably have funny' in it somewhere, but I want to do more than
straight comedy. Right now some things I'm hoping for are in
the hands of the gods and the producers. The gods are a little
easier to deal with."